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The Belmar First Aid Building for Sale

In Thursday’s Coast Star

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  1. Average Joe wrote:

    I’m sure a builder can squeeze in an average number of condos.

    Friday, April 23, 2021 at 4:10 am | Permalink
  2. Single Family wrote:

    Cash sale only
    Can’t be used as a non-conforming lot ( with ltd exception)
    Single family homes only

    Friday, April 23, 2021 at 7:22 am | Permalink
  3. Editor wrote:

    If anyone has difficulty viewing this document, please let me know. I tried something different.

    Friday, April 23, 2021 at 7:28 am | Permalink
  4. Anonymous wrote:

    I think it’s wonderful, and grateful that the former BFAS would stipulate that the property would be sold on the contingency that only single family homes be placed on the spot. I only wish that the Borough and zoning board would use that same sense of “common sense” when deciding these same types of issues in all parts of town. If only the powers that be, those elected officials, had the same concern for it’s residents. #voteforgerry

    Friday, April 23, 2021 at 7:52 am | Permalink
  5. Average Joe wrote:

    #2. I’m going to guess and say an average number of condos will be built in that spot. The town fathers/mothers are licking their chops to make it happen.

    Friday, April 23, 2021 at 8:05 am | Permalink
  6. eugene creamer wrote:

    “Buy land. They Ain’t Making Any More of the Stuff “.

    Friday, April 23, 2021 at 8:19 am | Permalink
  7. Anonymous wrote:

    #4 FYI making something a requirement of purchase is not a contingency, it’s a deed restriction and requirement not an uncertain variable to the puzzle. I think you are mistaken that with a few lines down wherein it says the bid will not be contingent upon subdivision approvals, which means that who ever bids must buy the lot as is and not wait to see if it gets approval from the planning board for a certain number of lots.

    But to all the tax payers in town, do some research and you may change your opinion on the oh mighty Belmar First Aid Squad, you will see that as a result of personal issues the Belmar First Aid Squad would only sell Belmar a certain piece of equipment for a very large number, when that was not the best thing financially for the Borough to do after negotiating in good faith back and forth. That same piece of equipment was sold for one dollar, yes one dollar, to a First Aid squad in New York, out of state no less, my Starbucks cost more then that in the morning, but this now requires the tax payers of Belmar to purchase this equipment which I am sure is way more then a dollar. Maybe personal issues should be put aside on all fronts, and respect the borough tax payers and friends of the borough that did make their donations to the First Aid Squad and kept it running for all these years as well. It is such a shame no one is opening their eyes to such obvious scamming by a select few on the first aid squad and their board, but it only takes a few bad apples to spoil the whole orchard I guess.

    Friday, April 23, 2021 at 3:26 pm | Permalink
  8. Anonymous wrote:

    #7…Oh Eddie, Eddie tsk, tsk …give it a rest

    Friday, April 23, 2021 at 4:19 pm | Permalink
  9. Anonymous wrote:

    #7- You seem to be in the know. Can you please say whether you believe a pending massive payout to a disabled boro employee, brought on by a once employed Mike Campbell, had anything to do with the negotiations? Be honest now. I’m really not sure what side of the fence you are sitting on. Maybe all these things should be out in the public.

    Friday, April 23, 2021 at 7:07 pm | Permalink
  10. Anonymous wrote:

    Maybe the Belmar First Aid could donate the property to the residents of Belmar. After all don’t they have to give the proceeds to a charity? Wouldn’t that be a wonderful gesture?

    Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 12:13 am | Permalink
  11. eugene creamer wrote:

    if the funeral home (across the street) wins the auction … they could use the building and property as-is.

    nowadays, the funeral business is hot!

    Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 10:52 am | Permalink
  12. Stop the BS wrote:

    As a life long resident of this town, I can say I am truly disheartened to read how some are constantly trashing our emergency services. It’s time to stop the high school bs and grow up. the facts are that the BFAS is an INDEPENDENT organization who owns their building, land, vehicles, equipment, paperclips, etc.. they (the life members) chose to cease operations due to financial and membership issues. If they (the life members) decided to donate a vehicle to another first aid squad, donate or sell their equipment, office supplies, etc., that is their choice and they are well within their right to do so. I am pretty sure their attorney will insure that the squad accounts for anything that is sold or donated to comply with IRS regulations and the proceeds will go to charities who deserve it. Those of us who have lived here and grew up here know that over the years the first aid has constantly given back to the community as a gift. We all need to celebrate their 93 years of service, thank those who volunteered and have given up time with their families, hot meals and sleep to help the citizens and guests of our town in their time of need and stop pointing fingers because some of us cannot let go of personal gripes.

    Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 11:32 am | Permalink
  13. DJs Still Owns Blmr wrote:

    Djais continues their illegal back bar extension to the south. Construction work marching south through the parking lot. Are the appropriate permits in place? Code Enforcement aware of this? Does this mean their occupancy capacity goes up? Nothing to see here peasants – move along. Djais STILL owns Belmar – just ask Frank and he will tell you himself.

    Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 1:45 pm | Permalink
  14. Anonymous wrote:

    #13, How the heck can D’Jais put up a 10’ fence ?! I thought the limit was 6’. What is going on back there ?

    Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 7:29 am | Permalink
  15. #7 wrote:

    #9 you are correct that is one of what I’m referring too.

    But I’m not on either side of this fence, I’m simply trying to shed light on both sides of the story, I don’t think the whole story and situation is put out there and it paints a one sided picture.

    This is what I do know though:

    1. Belmar first aid squad did an amazing job for their 93 years and should be celebrated, it is a shame the services they gave were not paid for by individuals using them, and they were put in a poor financial situation. Certain properties in the boro that house these individuals ie Mayfair are often judgment proof without insurance and use the services constantly and never pay a dime, trickle down effect and the Mayfair like entity doesn’t have to foot their bills, or have tax increases to their property they collect on all their summer profits and cell tower cash.

    2. It is the choice of Nelmar first aid squad to donate to charity of their choosing however no one on here or anywhere is stating that a very prominent member of the squad has his own charity, so is it the good of all members and volunteers from the squad that benefit or a select few or two. That can select their charity then take a salary for administrative positions from said charity

    3. The great Gerry has been radio silent on the issue of transparency on this as well I believe it’s because he was endorsed by them last election as an independent.

    4. Regardless what I really wanted the tax payers to know was these are the personnel issues that have now costed the tax payer dollars I personally think that although they had a right to donate to whoever they want, the gesture of at least the equipment going to the borough which also gave them portions of dollars of tax payers monies could have gone back to the community, less expense to the tax payers. I personally donated every year to the first aid squad, and I’m sure a lot of my neighbors and the community did as well, I think it is a slap in the face that the equipment was given to other squads as a donation when it was needed and now needs to be purchased in our own community. And the only reason that happened was a who’s got a bigger duck competition and who could screw over who more.

    What I would love to see happen here in our community and every where is people to put aside their personal differences and man up, and do the right thing. Stop using the community to prove points or hurt people.

    This is just an example of that

    Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 11:47 am | Permalink
  16. Ken Pringle wrote:

    #7 & #15
    It is beyond sickening to me that after an heroic but unsuccessful three-year effort to save the BFAS by transitioning to a paid service, BFAS members are now subjected to smears from an anonymous coward and accused without any basis whatsoever of winding down the BFAS so they can fund a charity that will pay them a salary.

    The vehicle given to the NY first aid squad for $1 was the BFAS’s Rescue Truck, which the BFAS purchased using its savings more than 20 years ago. The Borough never expressed any interest in acquiring that truck. In 2017, the BFAS provided training to Belmar’s fire companies on the use of the extraction equipment on that truck and invited them to take over responsibility for manning and maintaining that vehicle. They declined because of the vehicle’s age.

    The narrative that the BFAS should be turning over its vehicles and property to the Borough because they were purchased with taxpayer funding and annual envelope donations is simply untrue. The Borough’s annual stipend to the BFAS (as opposed to salaries paid to the Beach EMS staff) never exceeded $38,500, and even that was cut to $32,500 two years ago. Donations from Belmar residents have totaled on average about $17,000 per year, and were made by 15% of our households. While much appreciated by the BFAS, those amounts did not even cover the squad’s costs of operations and equipment maintenance, much less pay for new equipment. (The 2010 BFAS ambulance, the cost of which was which was funded in part by $50,000 in Beach Fund money, was one of the two ambulances the BFAS sold to the Borough, at a price of $1,000.00. The BFAS had to mortgage its building to buy the 2019 ambulance. The BFAS used the proceeds the Borough paid for that ambulance, and other equipment and supplies to pay off that mortgage.)

    Until recent years, the BFAS purchased all their equipment and improved building using savings that had been built up over decades, mostly from the proceeds of popular Bingo games run by BFAS volunteers. It was only after the BFAS no longer had sufficient savings to purchase new equipment that it decided to attempt to transition to a paid service.

    The remaining assets of the BFAS are the fruits of 93 years of commitment and hard work by its volunteers. The BFAS has earned the right to decide how the proceeds of those assets should be distributed to best serve Belmar’s residents, and carry on its good name.

    The officers and members of the BFAS have pledged to make that process a transparent one. They deserve not to be maligned while that process is underway.

    Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:50 pm | Permalink
  17. Resident wrote:

    Question for Mr. Kenny. Were any of the members or their family collecting a salary?
    Yes, the boro wanted that rescue truck for the fire dept.
    Yes the boro already paid 50k to buy one of the ambulances already. They could have donated the ambulances to the boro and still would have plenty of money to pay their mortgage after they sell the property and then some!

    Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 6:27 am | Permalink
  18. Anonymous wrote:

    Can anyone say for sure who from the Boro was involved in the negotiations with the BFAS? Mayor, council, Nasty Dasty, BA? Who had the final say? At that point maybe the town folks could determine whether these negotiations were done with the best interests of the taxpayers in mind. If not, get rid of all of them.

    Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 8:08 am | Permalink
  19. Anonymous wrote:

    #1- Why couldn’t these negotiations have been made in an open forum at a special council meeting?
    #2- Why couldn’t some form of agreement have been brought to the taxpayers to have a special referendum vote, as did Lake Como when they voted to abolish their Police Dept. (and screw us in the process)?

    Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 8:19 am | Permalink
  20. Ken Pringle wrote:

    #17 Once the BFAS made the transition to a paid service, it became a business. Since then everyone who worked for the BFAS, including members, has been paid “reasonable compensation for services rendered.” This is expressly authorized by an August 22, 1997 amendment to Article 2 of the BFAS’s Articles of Incorporation.

    As for your two statements:

    That’s false. All Borough requests for vehicles were supposed to be directed to me in writing. The Borough expressed an interest only in the two ambulances and the Durango. I can’t speak for what the Fire Dept. may have been told by Borough officials, but no one from the Borough ever expressed any interest to me or any officer of the BFAS in purchasing the Rescue Truck.

    Just to be clear, Borough taxpayers didn’t pay $50,000 toward the 2010 ambulance; that money came from the Beach Utility. The BFAS gave that rig to the Borough for $1,000, which was a bargain. The Borough didn’t contribute any money toward the purchase of the 2019 ambulance. So there was no reason to give it to the Borough, although they did receive a good price. The BFAS wants the proceeds of their assets to be distributed to charities for the benefit of Belmar’s residents — not taxpayers. As I’ll explain in a separate post, contrary to your #15 post, that’s not a “slap in the face to taxpayers” or to the Borough. It’s simply that the stated purpose of the BFAS has been to benefit Belmar’s residents. Consistent with that purpose, all of the proceeds from the dissolution of the BFAS and the sale of its assets will go to charities for the benefit of Belmar’s residents.

    Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 12:55 pm | Permalink
  21. Ken Pringle wrote:

    #19 The BFAS is an independent entity and not subject to the Open Public Meetings Act or OPRA. (Contract negotiations are not subject to the OPMA/OPRA either).

    The same answer also applies to your question why they didn’t go to referendum like the Lake Como PD question. The BFAS has never had a contract with the Borough, and has always had the right to cease operations.

    The Borough doesn’t need to go to referendum to provide an essential service, or to buy vehicles.

    Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 3:20 pm | Permalink
  22. Ken Pringle wrote:

    #18 Once the Borough accepted that the BFAS would be dissolving and selling its assets, it sought bids from private EMS providers as well as estimates to buy its own ambulances and equipment. I believe the Borough also explored local service agreements with other municipalities. My understanding is that those options were either cost-prohibitive or not available.

    I received a call from Borough Administrator Kirschenbaum on 2/9/2021, following up on the BFAS’s offer as set forth in my letters to Borough Attorney Dasti of January 5 and 8, 2021, in which I had communicated the BFAS’s willingness to sell at fair market value the BFAS ambulances and such other vehicles as the Borough may need.

    We exchanged emails on the following day, and in that exchange I asked the Borough to make arrangements with Rob DeMartin of the BFAS to look at the BFAS’s equipment and supplies, and let us know what the Borough wanted.

    All of the exchanges with the Borough regarding the pricing of the two ambulances, and the Durango, which are the only vehicles the Borough expressed an interest in purchasing, were via email between me and the Borough Administrator. On most if not all of these email exchanges, Mr. Kirschenbaum cc’d Mayor Walsifer, Ryann Dullea, Chief Scott, Bridge Dudas, Christine Manolio and Ricardo Llanos, and my replies were also cc’d to them.

    These communications should all be available via OPRA.

    I do not know who specifically was involved in the decision-making on the Borough’s side.

    Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 3:24 pm | Permalink
  23. Katrina Clapsis wrote:

    Can we all just take a deep breath and stop with the finger pointing and rumor and innuendo. Can we just thank the BFAS for years of dedicated service and thank the Borough for getting emergency services up and running for the town.

    Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 6:48 pm | Permalink
  24. Hail wrote:

    King Kenny has spoken so it must be true!

    Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 9:07 am | Permalink
  25. Anonymous wrote:

    #23- We can do both. Thank you members. Now, who from the Borough screwed up and made a poor decision without the true needs of the taxpayers in mind? B/A, Mayor,……….????c And I truly hope personality conflicts didn’t hamper the negotiations. Anyone out there care to think a lawsuit vs. the Borough pertaining to the mistreatment of an employee may have came into play???

    Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 2:05 pm | Permalink
  26. Anonymous wrote:

    #23 did you mean did the mistreatment (and from reading the complaint, I use that word loosely), of an employee come as a consequence of the First Aid not doing what it was told. I’m no lawyer but I wouldn’t take a case like this unless it had merit.

    Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

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