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Zoning Board Agenda for Thursday, April 28, 2022

Continuation of The Belmar Inn Application



Click here for the July, 2021 Blog Post with Documents, Drawings and other Information.

19 Comments

  1. anonymous wrote:

    Agreed and NO WAY to the side porches or rooftop living – for 24 + families to be out and about all the times along the existing families properties – and not just one or two families if it were developed as single family homes! be a good neighbor developer and planning board – single family homes would be best!

    Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 4:36 pm | Permalink
  2. Go away wrote:

    Nightmare on Elm street.

    Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 7:49 pm | Permalink
  3. Anonymous wrote:

    Yeah, that looks way worse than what’s currently there.

    Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 8:00 pm | Permalink
  4. Are you all serious? wrote:

    This place gives Belmar a bad name. Go on trip advisor or yelp and read for yourself.

    Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 11:34 pm | Permalink
  5. GET RID OF THE BI! wrote:

    This building looks 200 times better than the Belmar Inn! If you lived on 12th ave. you would definitely want this rather than the Belmar Inn. No one is going to purchase the Inn to build houses as it’s way too expensive, so this is definitely better than what’s there now!!

    Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:44 am | Permalink
  6. anonymous wrote:

    have a look … lots further from the beach are selling for a million each right now- so you sure can make single family homes and make a profit!
    stop changing the argument! – no one wants to keep the Belmar Inn- just don’t cave in to the developers/?planning board?why?? and overdevelop the property

    Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 12:28 pm | Permalink
  7. Pay for bad behavior wrote:

    #6- if the developer can’t make a profit on two (or three) single family homes, then they are paying too much for the BI. It’s that simple. Rewarding the owners of the Belmar Inn for being horrible citizens is a bad idea.

    Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 2:26 pm | Permalink
  8. Condos Look Good wrote:

    I happen to think the design of the new condos looks good, and having permanent residents who contribute to the betterment of Belmar will be wonderful. Do you know of anyone who would buy the Belmar Inn and put up houses? In the 20+ years that it’s been there no one has ever offered to buy it!

    Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 3:01 pm | Permalink
  9. Anonymous wrote:

    I think that building is really attractive and will totally change ( in a good way) the entire block and surrounding area.

    Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:19 pm | Permalink
  10. Anonymous wrote:

    #6 no one that I know who lives on 12th wants this development.

    Friday, April 29, 2022 at 9:01 am | Permalink
  11. Anonymous wrote:

    I live on the same block as the Belmar Inn and I definitely want this development! Not only will it get rid of the Belmar Inn and replace it with a nice looking condo building, but it will hopefully entice the owners of the other animal houses on the block to sell so beautiful houses can replace those!!

    Friday, April 29, 2022 at 11:05 am | Permalink
  12. Bad behavior wrote:

    #9 Lots of people have offered to buy the Belmar Inn over the years. The owners want more than it’s worth.
    The ONLY reason the developer is trying to fit 10 pounds of s*%# into a 5 pound bag is to try to maximize profits. If the Belmar Inn was priced at fair market value, they could easily do single family homes. The solution is to enforce the laws and make the owners of the INN either ship up, or sell. No point in negotiating with them, just make it so hard for them to operate as they have (just by enforcing existing ordinances) that they beg the developer for a deal. We need to use the tools that are already available to us. The people who live in the surrounding areas should not have to pay so that the owners of the Inn can sell their property for more than it’s worth. And if you question how I know they are asking for more than it’s worth? It’s because the only way the developer can make money is by asking the town allow for two dozen variances. Allowing that is government interference in a private sector deal. It’s tantamount to the government choosing winners and losers. You may be ok with that, I am not.

    Friday, April 29, 2022 at 11:10 am | Permalink
  13. Anonymous wrote:

    #13 you are right that the BI is overpriced, but the fact of the matter is that the owners are not looking to sell it. They are very happy operating as is and doing what is minimally necessary to stay up to code. They are making a huge profit operating the BI. Unfortunately the only way they will sell it is if someone offers them enough money, and the only person that has been able to do that is the current developer. Therefore that leaves the only viable option for getting rid of the BI at this time as building condos. Those of us who are in favor of this project and live on 12th ave. do not want to wait another 20 years for someone else to offer enough money to get rid of the BI. Single family homes would be much nicer, but that’s just not going to happen, and therefore we are willing to settle for this nice looking condo building in place of the BI.

    Friday, April 29, 2022 at 2:08 pm | Permalink
  14. guest wrote:

    #14 – totally agree. The owner is not going to ever sell that property for just the value of the building/land. There is a business operating there today and the value of that business needs to be factored in as well to any sale price.

    Friday, April 29, 2022 at 3:56 pm | Permalink
  15. Anonymous wrote:

    #12 and #14- I would love for someone out there to simulate in a drawing what your house would look like SURROUNDED by four story condos. Yep, that’s right, your home would be the only single family home left standing. I doubt very much that you would still be living in that lone single family house. Allow one, allow all I guess is all right with you.
    Secondly, Toms River has no problem condemning and knocking down nuisance properties. Why doesn’t our admin give a call and see how they do it. Otherwise get off your butts and start enforcing ordinances with zero tolerance.

    Friday, April 29, 2022 at 6:39 pm | Permalink
  16. Guest wrote:

    I also didn’t buy my house next to a 40 bed hotel expecting it to be eventually redeveloped into conforming single family homes.

    Friday, April 29, 2022 at 10:07 pm | Permalink
  17. Anonymous wrote:

    There was a nuisance property on 10th Ave in the 200 block Belmar bought it subdivided the lot into 2 parcels and sold them. Case closed

    Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 10:28 am | Permalink
  18. Anonymous wrote:

    #19 If the neighbors are truly willing to make an offer on the Belmar Inn, then they should do it and stop talking about it! I live across the street from the Belmar Inn on 12th ave. and I know many other people on our block who are also in favor of this condo building. Discussion Thursday night was blown way out of proportion by the people who oppose this project. 24 permanent residents will not all be starting their cars at the same time and looking out at the neighbor’s windows and bedrooms from their balconies. The owners will be city residents who pay lots of taxes and will care about their neighbors – completely the opposite than the people who stay and live at the Belmar Inn! I care about all my neighbors and hope that a compromise will be made. I think the Zoning Board has always been fair in considering each individual proposal and whether it is the best thing for our town, and they look at each project proposed seperately, so I don’t think this is setting a precedent. I feel like there was a lot of bullying and mumbling going on Thursday night from the people who oppose this project and I feel threatened by them all. It sounds like Mr. Shipers already reduced the setbacks for the neighbors and made the building more favorable for all of us, so please consider making a compromise so we can get rid of the Belmar Inn and all move forward in peace.

    Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 2:30 pm | Permalink
  19. Guest wrote:

    #22. Problem is that the owners will not sell if it’s for less. They will just keep going about their business. This is a great opportunity for the town.

    Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

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