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all 160 pages of it.
Edelman/Belmar Inn Resolution passed on January 26, 2023
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What a page turner. I think someone should try to turn it into a screen play. We could call it, “Dances with Variances”
I see it as an Erin Brokovich type movie, but in this one the giant evil company wins.
I sure hope I’m around when all the folks that championed this box shaped eye sore start going to council meetings to complain about it. That can be the sequel.
When you look at this rendering of the 24
unit Condo Building, it’s hard to believe that it’s plunked in the middle of a single family zoned block.
God help us where the next one lands.
I’m not opposed to reasonable development in the Main St to RR corridor and maintaining the 2-3 floor residential levels.
We have to find a legal way to stop this !0
I think this project and the people that will inhabit it will be 10 times better than what’s there now. It will only increase surrounding property values.
the hours of recordings were entertaining … the paper application fails Belmar’s minimum property owner disclosure requirement.
#4 – Sir, I like the idea of Condos going there because there’ll be no low-cost units involved. But your comment about the people living there I can’t agree with. While most of the people living there look to be illegal aliens, at least they’re working people from what I see.
At the very least it should not be taller than the existing structure and not have a rooftop deck – how about 3 single family homes “to be better than what’s there”
An oversized condo complex is just acquiescing to a developer’s greed and steamrolling the beautification that single family homes would bring to that street and the folks that live in Belmar.
#4 you’re right! I say we all let our homes go to sh@#, sell it for more than it’s worth, have the government step in and allow the buyer to do whatever they want, and make a boat load of cash. And everyone will say , ‘hey, it’s better than what was there!’
I think you’re on to something here. I always thought Belmar should look more like Miami Beach.
To 8
That will be the new battle cry. It’s better than what’s there!
just plain old gentrification … first was the Belmar Inn … next is the Mayfair Hotel … then it will be River Ridge Apts … and finally will be a Belmar Motor Lodge 3+ acre high-rise low-income Project to compensate for the Borough’s lack of affordable housing.
“Red-Lining”, was a method used (now outlawed) by private real estate agencies to keep minorities out of certain neighborhoods. “Affordable Housing” is a method used by government to put minorities who can’t afford to live in certain neighborhoods in, regardless of their insufficient finances.
#11 I would say that those two things, red-lining and affordable housing, are not the same thing. It sounds like you think they are. Red-lining is geographical racism. Bad. Affordable housing initiatives are an attempt to create a place where working people (you know, non-college educated hard working, but low wage, Americans) can afford to live. Usually attached to a project where the developer is getting millions of dollars in tax breaks.
As a champion of the working class, I would assume (wrongly I guess) that you would be all for allocating affordable dwellings.
#12-Affordable housing sounds fine in principle but when it’s born on the backs of hard working taxpayers’ that are no longer able to affordable the houses they now live in, not so. And when developers get millions of dollars (as you say) in tax breaks, who do you think pays the price? The afore mentioned taxpayer.
#13 Correct. Me, I take issue with the developers getting the millions in tax breaks, not so much the working class folks that need a decent place to live.
But hey, screw the poor.
” Red-lining is geographical racism”
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Affordable housing is social engineering carried out by the state – an attempt to change the demographics of an area and interfere with people’s rights of association through legislative and judicial edicts.
#15 and Medicare is social engineering carried out by the state in an attempt to subsidize medical care for the elderly and interfere with natural selection based on the size of one’s savings account.
Something tells me that you are ok what that though.
#16 I think Medicare is a federal program. It was an attempt to have government take care of us. The employee and employer both paid into it. Similar to a person prepaying for their health care.
Hey Barry Depeppe got all kinds of tax breaks on his monstrosities!!!
(I do not believe that there are any tax breaks involved in the Belmar Inn project, Editor.)
There are NO tax breaks or pilots involved in the Belmar Inn project. Nor did the developer ask for any tax breaks or pilots.
And the pilot programs given to Barry Depeppe on every building he put up and is making tons off of was approved by Matt Doherty and his admin.
Dirty Doherty!
#17 it IS a federal program. And yes, I know how it works. I was merely pointing out Mr Dilberger’s hypocrisy. Calling one government program, that helps a segment of the population, ‘social engineering’ while being totally fine with a different government program that helps a segment of the population.
a segment of the population.
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Sir, I’m for that “segment” of society that pays into social security and against that segment of society that refuses to contribute by refusing to work and pay into it. The segment that pays into SS is made up of all people who pay into it, and it doesn’t take into account anything else such as race, religion or ethnic background like Affordable Housing or Affirmative Action does.
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Sir, your analogy doesn’t hold water.
#19 we know there were no tax breaks for the 12th Ave project. No one said there was. And yes, the PILOT programs were a state wide program that Doherty embraced. That particular chestnut wasn’t about affordable housing, it was about improving and ‘area in need of redevelopment’. Determined so by the Doherty admin. The deal there was the developer only had to pay money to the town in leu of taxes. Payment In Leu Of Taxes or PILoT. In Belmar’s case it was a budgetary shell game where Doherty could run on a platform of not raising municipal taxes, while zero dollars from the large projects went to the school. Thus forcing the school to be the bad guy when the school portion of the property tax bill needed to be raised. Ol’ Matt could (and would) say, hey that’s not me, that’s the school. It is Machiavellian politics 101. A master class in poor leadership and passing the buck for personal gain.
#22 wow. First- no one said anything about affirmative action. And, as you most certainly know, affirmative action has nothing to do with taxes.
Second- I mentioned Medicare, not social security. But, your confusion aside, both are ‘social’ programs that benefit a segment of the population.
Lastly – do you honestly believe, and I pray that you don’t, that affordable housing has race or religious requirements? Are you honestly that uninformed?!? I must say, I am comforted by the fact that you refuse to vote. Affordable housing is for anyone that financially qualifies for it. Regardless of race or religion. To break it down for you-that means white WORKING people can also benefit from affordable housing programs. I know how much you hate being wrong, but you’d think at this point you’d be used to it.
Sir, while I do get some enjoyment out of debating you, it is often unfulfilling due to your breathtaking lack of knowledge about almost everything.
“affirmative action has nothing to do with taxes.”
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#25 still hanging on. I admire the blind stubbornness.
Point out how much tax payer money is allocated for ‘affirmative action’ in the federal budget.
I’ll wait.
Or I can save you the time, none. Is it possible you don’t know how taxes work?
Again, we weren’t talking about affirmative action, but I’ll play along because I know how obsessed you are with race.
And again, if you want to argue about something, educate yourself first. Please. This is getting a little boring.
Sir, I’m more interested in whether harry and meghan will be allowed to go to charley’s coronation than your gibberish sir – I mean that only in the best way of course.
#27 never took you for a fan of celebrity gossip, but you are an enigma.
Here’s an exercise you can try. Instead of just saying the word ‘gibberish’, try to point out anything that I said that is untrue. I know I know, you’re more of the head in the sand, shout at the wind type. But it would help your credibility if you could try to debate.
But no worries. It’s kinda fun to get yer goat.