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On the Belmar First Aid Facebook Page – July 16, 2021

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40 Comments

  1. Anonymous wrote:

    Just sell the borough the dang building already!!!

    Friday, July 16, 2021 at 9:24 am | Permalink
  2. Anonymous wrote:

    I really could care less who did what to who. That building could have been donated to the borough to begin with and none of this would be happening.

    Friday, July 16, 2021 at 9:26 am | Permalink
  3. Real Resident wrote:

    Franny!!! Stop crying and move on with your life! As long as the plans on using the property for a public safety building and not building a bar or strip club, who cares? As a resident I feel the consolidation of the fire/EMS into one location is smart. This town doesn’t need 6 fire trucks. You need 2 pumpers, 1 ladder and one rescue truck. The mutual aid response in this area is fantastic. They always help each other out. Everything in this town always seems to be surrounded in controversy and scandal. I feel if the BFS truly cared about the residents of Belmar they would donate the property instead of tying everything up in litigation. Let it go and let’s move on. The residents are getting sick of this. We all know that the Campbell incident with your son is an underlying factor in your disdain for the boro. You’ll have your day in court with that lawsuit you have filed. So please, stop crying about the building that was originally donated by the Mihlons and maintained by resident and boro contributions for 100 years!

    Friday, July 16, 2021 at 2:42 pm | Permalink
  4. Anonymous wrote:

    People, who the hell would want the combination of 3 fire houses and a first aid squad in the middle of their neighborhood ?!!! That’s insane. Sirens day and night. Stupid idea. Take the old Salt location or the Belmar Arts building.

    Friday, July 16, 2021 at 4:33 pm | Permalink
  5. I CAN'T BELIEVE wrote:

    I Can’t Believe that the BFAS that was supported by the residents of Belmar (and they did an extraordinary job tending to our grandparents, mothers and fathers, our children and friends I might add,) would not gift the building and property to the people of Belmar to continue to use to provide service to the residents of Belmar. I can’t believe the Board of BFAS can’t get past their issues with the Belmar Administration and see that they are hurting the residents of Belmar. I can’t believe that the BFAS wants to polarize the town rather than allowing the town to buy the property, allowing them to leave their posts on a high note.
    I am sad and I can’t believe that people I admired for their dedication to the town don’t see how sad many of the residents who supported them are about this.
    I do believe that if they turn to God and ask for peace with regard to this issue, they may find it in their hearts a way to give the residents the BFAS property.

    Friday, July 16, 2021 at 4:50 pm | Permalink
  6. Discretion wrote:

    #4 All 3 firehouses and first aid building have lived comfortably with their neighbors for 100 years. The use of a siren is to alert traffic to yield to an emergency vehicle. If there’s no traffic then the use of the siren is not necessary. Unlike the guys in the yellow fire trucks who lean steadily on their horn and siren no matter what.

    Friday, July 16, 2021 at 6:20 pm | Permalink
  7. I have not signed a Belmar Petition in long time and thought those days were over. Where is the harm in permitting Belmar residents the opportunity to cast a vote/collectively make a decision on an issue that’s obviously divisive and questionably responsive to the best interest of the town and residents. If it’s not too late I’d like to sign the petition.

    Friday, July 16, 2021 at 10:14 pm | Permalink
  8. Anonymous wrote:

    Put the damn thing up for a referendum this November and let THE PEOPLE decide what to do. It’s obvious the politicians of this town don’t give a rat’s A*S about what’s best for the residents. And I hope all those BFS members and supporters elect to vote this sorry bunch of leaders out of office. One by one.

    Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 9:23 am | Permalink
  9. Anonymous wrote:

    I am so tired of hearing about this issue. If bfas tears down the building this will obviate the whole issue with the town. Then someone can come in and build four story condos. Conversation over.

    Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 10:56 am | Permalink
  10. Monsignor wrote:

    #8. You have no clue. But you do have my sympathies.

    Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 1:55 pm | Permalink
  11. Vote wrote:

    #5 I don’t think you can expect Hines to give away the property to the town. Would you give away your property to the town? I certainly wouldn’t. It’s an asset and I would sell it for the best price I could get. I don’t thinks it’s fair to expect anyone to donate their property to the town. The problem I believe stems from the town threatening to use eminent domain to assert their exclusive right to buy the property. Not a great idea.
    The officials of this town have showed over and over again how bad they are at managing things. The $1.5 mil will be just the beginning. It won’t be long before it is operating in the deep deep red. Plus the property is in a flood zone. Not a great place to keep life saving equip.
    In any event, asking for the issue to be on the ballot in November is not too much to ask.

    Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 5:40 pm | Permalink
  12. Anonymous wrote:

    #11 I totally agree with you and for the people who think that the first aid owes us something how about what we owe them for showing up at our houses at all times of night and day losing sleep on work nights being away from their families on holidays, special occasions and just interrupting their home life just because you slipped them $20 bucks a year you think they owe us and to top it all off some jerk o throws Lake Como into the mix. In a nutshell they don’t owe us jack we owe them, man up and buy or let someone put three lovely houses in a flood zone

    Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 9:57 pm | Permalink
  13. eugene creamer wrote:

    BFAS is a good place for the Community Emergency Response Team (CERT) volunteers.

    Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 10:57 pm | Permalink
  14. Local wrote:

    #11 and #12. That’s the problem. Hines does think he owns the property!!!!

    Sunday, July 18, 2021 at 7:29 am | Permalink
  15. Anonymous wrote:

    The town IS paying for the property. 1.5 MILLION even withe eminent domain.
    And Hines does not own the Property. The BFAS does. Isn’t there a board?
    Why all this anguish? Why doesn’t the BFAS want to sell to the town? No one seems to be able to answer that. What’s the personal beef there. It makes no logical sense.
    The argument about the neighborhood really holds little weight as the building already functions in that capacity.

    Sunday, July 18, 2021 at 7:39 am | Permalink
  16. Sell me a bridge wrote:

    #15 the BFAS will sell to the town. The town doesn’t like the terms. And since they don’t like the terms, they started eminent domain proceedings. Maybe there’s a beef between the two entities. Maybe it’s just politics.
    Regardless, the town doesn’t have $1.5 mil to spend on the property. Period. In addition to that fact, this town is extremely bad with money management. They will not be able to run it as a First Aid squad. The debt will pile up and we’ll get hit with a property tax increase by an administration that says something like, “this issue was unforeseeable and we must all pitch in to pay off this debt. We apologize and promise that it won’t happen again”. How many times are we as tax payers going to allow the town to squander money to flagrantly? It’s a bad idea all around and there are ways to provide these services without borrowing millions of dollars.

    Sunday, July 18, 2021 at 9:54 am | Permalink
  17. Anonymous wrote:

    # 16. The condition of the BFAS deed restriction seems unreasonable. Lift that restriction and make the sale.
    As far as the money, if you think that a town will never have to raise or spend money I don’t know how you survive.
    What a difference of opinion here.
    I believe the borough is doing a great job with my tax dollars. I see roads being paved, sewer lines repaired, movies back up at the beach, playgrounds with new equipment that was reasonable in price, the water tank getting ready to be painted, the water sewer situation being addressed, l and k street flooding from sewers solved, businesses moving in to town, the marina slips almost fully rented, McClearie park tennis and pickle ball courts, the pavilion that was purchased under prior administration put up and being utilized, past debt consolidated so we are paying off principal on our debt, our debt reduced and a zero budget increase this year.
    So we have a disagreement.

    Sunday, July 18, 2021 at 1:08 pm | Permalink
  18. Irish Rose wrote:

    #17 well said! Best mayor, council and administration we’ve had in decades. Hines is a nasty vindictive a-hole, he’s punishing the residents while he sits in Florida

    Sunday, July 18, 2021 at 2:40 pm | Permalink
  19. Anonymous wrote:

    Didn’t BFAS dissolve March 31, 2021 right after they received yet another and last Mortgage?, Thus the money bag BFAS 501c, owns all the assets of the whole shebang? Holding all the cards are the Trustees of that Charitable organization which may or may not be maintained at the 7th Ave Law Firm vs Florida.

    Belmar residents don’t need or want the Hines families largess managing their tax free Charitable organization or do they?

    Sunday, July 18, 2021 at 3:17 pm | Permalink
  20. Irish Rose wrote:

    #19 they took out a mortgage right before they knew they were closing the shop for good? Where is that money?

    Sunday, July 18, 2021 at 4:35 pm | Permalink
  21. Anonymous wrote:

    #16- You are spot on.
    #17- What about the BS $83k jobs being given out left and right. And how bout reducing spending to CUT MY TAXES, not keep them the same. Other towns don’t have a problem doing it. Where did the half mill. from Jackas* Joe go?
    Finally, If my name was Fran and my disabled son was abused by the Head of Public Works and the mayor Mark tried to cover it up and do nothing about it, I too would be pissed off and make Mark’s job more difficult. How bout we the people tell Mark he can no longer try to negotiate with Fran, stop the BS on both sides making the newspapers and let the true professionals do the talking. Enough already with this total BS. Grow up people(Mark and Fran). Vote these people out.

    Sunday, July 18, 2021 at 6:19 pm | Permalink
  22. Ken Pringle wrote:

    #19, #20 Stop the lying. The BFAS took out their most recent mortgage on 8/23/2019 in the amount of $250,000. That loan was used to pay for the purchase of a new ambulance and related equipment and expenses. The BFAS paid off that mortgage with the proceeds of the sale to the Borough on 4/1/2021 of their two ambulances, captain’s vehicle, and related equipment.

    Sunday, July 18, 2021 at 6:58 pm | Permalink
  23. Anonymous wrote:

    Thank you Ken for setting the record straight. This administration reminds me of the previous. They’re all the same and what Belmar needs is a new voice to step up.

    Sunday, July 18, 2021 at 10:29 pm | Permalink
  24. Anonymous wrote:

    21. Have no idea what “giving out 83 k jobs “left and right “ means. Who? Why? When? Where?
    Please name one town that lowers taxes? With an explanation of how.
    No idea what the Joe reference means either. Please explain. Proof of the explanation would be appreciated.
    Making accusations with out evidence is really what causes the divisions in this town.
    I gave 15 positive things I see being done.
    That’s pretty good in my book.
    As far as Fran Hines and his son goes, there are many sides to the same story. They are suing the town for the injustice he feels was done to his son. He will probably get a settlement of some sort. Let’s let the courts decide that one. And move on.

    Sunday, July 18, 2021 at 11:32 pm | Permalink
  25. Anonymous wrote:

    # 24 Lake Como

    Monday, July 19, 2021 at 12:40 pm | Permalink
  26. Sell me a bridge wrote:

    #17 perhaps the deed restriction IS unreasonable. If so, then maybe the town should figure out a new plan.
    You are right about one thing: we have a difference of opinion. This administration has brought squandering tax dollars to a new low (or high). The last admin was a glutinous train wreck and the Walsifer folks are doing their best to keep up.
    Streets being paved? Really? 12th and currently working on 15th. That’s two.
    The sewer and flooding problem at L street has not only not been fixed, they are being ignored. At least Matt, as bad as he was, would give lip service. Walsifer won’t even do that. So some parks have equipment that was purchased by the previous admin, awesome. They are crushing it in the doing the bare minimum department.
    But all that aside- there is nothing wrong with asking the voters to weigh in on whether or not the town should spend $1.5 mil on this project. If you are for it, then you’ll get your chance to vote in favor of it. If there are people in town that don’t want even the opportunity to vote on it, well then that seems a bit suspicious. I’m sure we agree on that.

    Monday, July 19, 2021 at 1:55 pm | Permalink
  27. Anonymous wrote:

    12th and 15th within two and a half years with mostly grant money pretty good in my book.
    I could be wrong but the sewage coming up from a broken pump was fixed no? Of course there may be more work to be done.
    Tennis courts and pickle ball had nothing to the with previous admin
    As far a referendum if enough voters sign petition to force it. I will vote yes to purchase. In that we can agree

    Monday, July 19, 2021 at 2:59 pm | Permalink
  28. Anonymous wrote:

    #24- What rock did you just climb out from under?
    Former Police Chief Houseman was awarded a $83k do nothing B/B job that they keep changing the name of because he’s not qualified for any of them.
    Lake Como and Spring Lake Heights have either held their tax rate steady or reduced it for the past four years. Lake Como did it by having US, the residents of Belmar, subsidize just about every service they have, Police, Fire, First Aid….
    And Jackas* Joe is the guy you voted for for President of the USA. The feds. sent Belmar almost $500k for whatever. Where did that go?

    Monday, July 19, 2021 at 3:16 pm | Permalink
  29. Anonymous wrote:

    By bidding, you agree to the deed restrictions – stop complaining. If the Admin didn’t like the terms they should not have bid.

    Monday, July 19, 2021 at 3:16 pm | Permalink
  30. What’s next wrote:

    What ever happened to:
    1. The free boat slips
    2. Director of DPW using borough workers & vehicle’s on borough time to move furniture in his house
    3. Investigation into director of DPW and Mr. Hines abuse case
    Now we have a resident that said he was verbally abused and intimidated by the BA.
    When will it end? Why is no one being held accountable. Is anyone else worried what else is being covered up by the employees that our taxes pay for?
    These are just the things we know about as they were caught. Imagine what is being done behind closed doors.
    It’s a scary thought and one reason why we need transparency in this administration.
    I for one voted against party lines for the fist time in a very long time last election. Hoping for change, hoping for honesty and Unfortunately we were let down.

    Monday, July 19, 2021 at 9:56 pm | Permalink
  31. Anonymous wrote:

    Under what Rock? Really? You can do better than that lol.
    So giving out left and right jobs is really one job. Hummm
    Your very testy. And mean spirited.
    The President reference makes no sense what so ever. So besides chuckling: no comment. Some kinda proof of that would be nice.
    And this years tax rate in Belmar is held steady soooooo that clears that up for me.

    Monday, July 19, 2021 at 10:58 pm | Permalink
  32. Average Joe wrote:

    #31 The town should say that our taxes are holding steady while decreasing our debt. They didn’t. So without knowing debt amount your joy of zero tax increase is a below average accurate statement. Same holds true for the idiot in the white house.

    Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 7:12 am | Permalink
  33. Anonymous wrote:

    They did say they decreased debt. From 39 million to 19 million since coming into office.

    Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 7:37 am | Permalink
  34. Sell me a bridge wrote:

    #27&#31- I assume you’re the same person. I don’t think that two streets (it’s only part of one so far but the work has stared on 15th) is really all that great in my book. I’m certainly glad my tax rate stayed the same this year, Walsifer admin increased it 21.7% in 2019. Hopefully that tides them over for a while. At least until the $1.5 mil comes due. Oh and the bottomless pit of expenditures when the town tries to run a first aid squad. And no, it is not only this current admin to blame. The last admin was a disgusting mess. But even with all the obvious fraud and waste of last admin- there were many improvements that took place during that time. In my view, based on spending levels, cronyism, inaction towards the L street area, inaction over quality of life issues, etc- this current admin, while having some positives to point to (like a pickle ball court), is failing in many important ways. You clearly support this admin and that is your prerogative.
    The beauty of the petition circulating is the fact that you DO get a right to vote on the matter in November. We all do. And there’s nothing bad about that.

    Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 7:37 am | Permalink
  35. Anonymous wrote:

    Can anyone come up with a valid reason as to why this mayor and council don’t just put this on the ballot in November ? They now see that this is a hot topic so why not let the voters decide ?

    Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 8:08 am | Permalink
  36. Aghast wrote:

    Bad news, Bradley repairing street during summer, go around a corner; Predicted price of gasoline slowing electricity generated by wind turbines in Atlantic; Costs of construction devastates economic futures; Predictions of 2013 fiscal Municipal mismanagement came true, Piper appeared for payment 2018, 2019, 2020!

    Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 1:19 pm | Permalink
  37. Travellvr313 wrote:

    BFAS should have donated the building months ago. Consolidating fire and EMS in 1 location is a great idea. The sirens don’t go off constantly (luckily!) so it will not be a great imposition to the neighbors at the BFAS location.
    BFAS is being ridiculous and greedy – BFAS is a non-profit entity so whatever money they make must go to another non-profit entity – and what is the purpose of that?? We’ve already paid them for their rigs and equipment.
    As for a referendum, that also costs money and is an unnecessary expense. Consolidation is the efficient way to go. Let’s do it and move on to a real issue already.

    Friday, July 23, 2021 at 2:14 pm | Permalink
  38. Travellvr313 wrote:

    And how much is BFAS paying for legal services?? Talk about unnecessary expenses…advise them to donate the building to the town and end this.

    Friday, July 23, 2021 at 2:18 pm | Permalink
  39. Editor wrote:

    To #38 TRAVELLVR313

    See Ken Pringle’s comment #5 under this Post
    http://www.thebelmarblog.com/?p=627

    Friday, July 23, 2021 at 2:34 pm | Permalink
  40. Fear of a vote wrote:

    #37,38- You’re opinion on the matter is noted. However, you alone cannot dictate what happens in this town. Luckily we live in a democracy. Petitioning one’s government is a foundational right of every American citizen. We were able to (try to) keep the last administration honest (no easy task) by the use of petitions to require decisions like this one to appear on the ballot. If you are so strongly for this heavy handed acquisition, you can exercise your most fundamental civic duty and vote. The reason this referendum is ‘costing money’ is because the town leaders decided to do this without letting the citizens of Belmar decide. So if you are upset over the cost of this referendum effort, you should take that complaint to the mayor and council themselves.

    Sunday, July 25, 2021 at 10:34 am | Permalink

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